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  posted on 8/25/2004 at 07:43 PM
35th anniversary of the Layla sessions

In this thread I'm going to present a day-by-day chronology of the Layla sessions, as collated from track info given in The Layla Sessions: 20th Anniversary Edition (1990) and other sources. When a thread gets too bulky, a "=Layla= sessions: Part 2" thread and so on will come into being.

{See my 2005.08.28 post for a table of contents for all five threads on this topic.}

The recordings overall stretch from 1970.08.26 through 09.10, with further sessions for final touchups in October or probably November (but certainly not 10.01-02, as stated in the 20th Anniversary Edition package and elsewhere, since Derek and the Dominos were in England at that time; this discrepancy is discussed in other threads around this "Duane Allman" section). It's possible that other cuts were made on days other than given, and simply mislabeled. Also, it's not possible to reconstruct the exact sequence of the various recordings done in a given day.

Each song worked on in a given day is going to be listed with this info:
* "Song title"
Players
(Composer;
previous artist [if applicable])
{Other notes by me}
Quotations from various sources (see "Partial bibliography" below)
{Note by me within quotations}

ABB = Allman Brothers Band
BW = Bobby Whitlock, keyboards and/or vocals
CR = Carl Radle, bass
Duane = Duane Allman, guitar
D&D = Derek and the Dominos (four-man group, without Duane)
Eric = Eric Clapton, guitar and vocals
JG = Jim Gordon, drums, piano ("Layla" only)
comp. = composer
rec. = recorded
rel. = released

Terms in parentheses (/) and square brackets [/] are as in the original source.
Terms in curly brackets {/} are mine.
Italic resource shorthand: leads off a quotation from one of various sources (listed below). Such a quotation may go over one paragraph.


Partial bibliography

Allman Brothers Band, Hittin' the Web with the, website. 2004. "Live Show Database" section. http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Calendar&file =showCalendarMonth&tapers=1&year=1970&month=08&day=01&type=listevents&shows etlists=1&search=quick&searcharg=Aug%201970
Austin Motor Company. Date unkn. The Austin Atlas of Great Britain. London: Geographica. 74 pp. A bit of description in 2004.10.07 post.
Bootography, Eric Clapton, website. 2004. “Derek and Eric: 1970-74” section.
http://pages.infinit.net/ronfaith/de70-74.html#Cash%20Perk%20in
Census Bureau, U.S. 2004. USA QuickFacts website, "State & County QuickFacts" section.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
Coastweb. Unknown compiler. 2004. "Index of /ftp/slowhand/text_info" webpage. Listing of, and links to, dozens of text files related to Eric, mostly of reviews, interviews, and other articles.
http://www.coastweb.de/ftp/slowhand/text_info/
Coleman, Ray. 1985. Clapton! An Authorized Biography (published first the same year in Britain by Sidwick & Jackson as Survivor! The Authorized Biography of Eric Clapton). New York: Warner Books. The author conducted many interviews with, and received writings from, Eric.
Crossroads. Clapton, Eric. 1988. Crossroads. Polydor box set. Notes by Anthony DeCurtis, plus track info.
Doerschuk, Robert L. 1996. "Killing Floor: 25 Years After Jimi Hendrix's Death, the Story Unravels." Musician, 1996.02, pp. 39?+.
Dowd, Tom. 2003. Tom Dowd and the Language of Music documentary website.
http://www.thelanguageofmusic.com/
Encyclopaedia Britannica. 1959. Chicago, London: Encyclopaedia Britannica.
Freedem. Free Demographics website. 1970-2000. U.S. Census data for those years.
http://freedemographics.com/
Freeman, Scott. 1995. Midnight Riders: The Story of the Allman Brothers Band. Boston: Little, Brown.
Fricke, David. 1988. “Eric Clapton: The Rolling Stone Interview.” Rolling Stone 1988.08.25, no. 533, pp. 26+.
Geetarz. Unknown author. 2004. "Slowhand Reviews and Information" section. Detailed bootleg info, most with recording and performance reviews.
http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapton/index5.htm
Gemelli, Stephano. 2004. “Eric Clapton 45s” section. La Musica e felicita! website. 45 sleeve photos.
http://www.stefanogemelli.com/gully/autori/clapton45/clapton4 5.htm
Glover, Tony. 1972. Untitled booklet essay. Duane Allman: An Anthology. Macon, GA: Capricorn Records.
Gordon, Josh. 2003. "Tuneups, Guitar World's Collection of Artist Profiles: Bobby Whitlock," a webpage. Formerly referenced as "Whitlock."
http://www.guitarworld.com/tuneups/0303.derek.html
Guitar Player. Various writers. 1981. "Special Issue: Duane Allman Remembered: With Gregg Allman, Dickey Betts, Pete Carr, Billy Gibbons, John Hammond, & the Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section." Guitar Player, 1981.10, vol. 15, no. 10. Intro bio written by Jas Obrecht, slide lesson by Arlen Roth, reminiscences by others named in subtitle (Jimmy Johnson and David Hood separately representing the MSRS).
Hawthorn, James. 2004. "The Original Singles" and following webpages. The Jimi Hendrix Record Guide, a website. 45 sleeve images.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hendrix.guide/singles.htm
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hendrix.guide/hendrix.htm
Hutchinson, John. 1982. "Eric Clapton: Farther Up the Road." Musician, no. 43, 1982.05.
Kirkpatrick, Chuck. "The Layla Sessions" webpage. Excerpt from book Engineer's Corner. Publ. data unkn. At Chuck Kirkpatrick website, "Studio Stories" section.
http://members.aol.com/CKIRKP1021/DEREK.HTML
Libis ABB: Libis, Steven. 2004. “Allman Brothers Band” section. Chrome Oxide: Music Collectors Pages website. Gig, bootleg, and other info.
http://www.chromeoxide.com/allman.htm
Libis D&D. Libis, Steven. 2004. “Derek and the Dominos” section. Chrome Oxide: Music Collectors Pages website. Gig, bootleg, and other info.
http://www.chromeoxide.com/derek.htm
Looking at Buildings website. 2004. “Exploring Buildings” section. Awesome architecture pages on Birmingham, Bristol, Leeds, Liverpool, London, Manchester, and Sheffield, all of which except Sheffield saw concerts by Derek and the Dominos.
http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/default.asp?document=3
Mamesiba: "US Singles-select" webpage. 45 images with Japanese text, English captions.
http://mamesiba.hp.infoseek.co.jp/US7/US7SSW.html
Mandel, Ellen. 1971. Interview [title unknown]. Good Times magazine, issue unknown. Reprinted in "The Georgia Peach." Guitar World, 1991.11.
Ouellette, Dan. 1991. “Lay It Out.” Down Beat, 1991.02, p. 49. Review of The Layla Sessions: 20th Anniversary Edition.
Palmer, Robert. 1992. "Eric Clapton." Rolling Stone, 1992.10.15, pp. 126-29. Excerpts from no. 450, 1985.06.20.
Rand McNally. 1996. Rand McNally Road Atlas. Skokie, Illinois: Rand McNally.
Records Around the World webpage. 45 images.
http://www.raw-tcsd.com/RAW1__d.htm
Roberty, Marc. 1994. The Eric Clapton Scrapbook. New York: Citadel Press.
Roberty 2, Marc. 1995. The Complete Guide to the Music of Eric Clapton. London: Omnibus Press.
Santoro, Gene. 1990. "The Layla Sessions." Derek and the Dominos: The Layla Sessions: 20th Anniversary Edition. Polydor. Box notes.
Shapiro, Harry, & Caesar Glebbeek. 1991. Jimi Hendrix: Electric Gypsy. New York: St. Martin's Press. Awesome collection of materials.
Sixties Rock website. 2004. Usually nonresponding site with 45 images and info.
http://www.sixtiesrock.com/eric-clapton/singles.html
Slowhand Tourography website. 2004. “Annual File 1970” section. Derek and the Dominos tour details. Other pages are very useful for other Eric, Cream, etc. dates.
http://www.ectours.de/cgi-bin/frame.pl?file=ec1970.shtml
Thames, Bill. 2004. “Bobby Whitlock & Kim Carmel: An Interview.” Found through the Hittin’ the Web with the Allman Brothers Band “Home Page.”
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name =userpage&file=content&page_id=40
Turner, Steve. 1974. "Eric Clapton: The Rolling Stone Interview." Rolling Stone, no. 165, 1974.07.18, pp. 52-58.
Werner. 2004. My Eric Clapton Bootleg-Collection website, "Other Artists" section. Some unique info on a few ABB boots. Tons of D&D stuff in primary section on Eric, all of which is found elsewhere; reviews are lifted from other sites, such as Bootography and Geetarz above.
http://www.home.vr-web.de/w.worm/ec_boots/others.htm
Whitlock: See Gordon.
Wikipedia. 2004. Online encyclopedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
World Book Atlas, The. 1965. Chicago: Field Enterprises Educational Corp.
WPLO-FM. 1971. Duane Allman Interview. Radio broadcast found transcribed in various places, such as Guitar Player magazine 1989.08.

Corrections and all kinds of comments are certainly welcome, and don't worry about going off the chronology!

[Edited on 2005.8.28 by PeterNelson]

 

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  posted on 8/25/2004 at 08:18 PM
1970.08.23 Sunday


* Derek & the Dominos depart London for Miami, Florida, and Criteria Studios.

Santoro, Tom Dowd speaking: "We {the Dominos pre-Duane} fumbled along for a couple days like that while we were getting sounds and breaking ice."



1970.08.26 Wednesday


* "Jam II"
Eric, BW, CR, JG
(comp. same four)
{"Jam I" was recorded with the same lineup on 09.02.}

Glover: It was through Dowd that Duane and Eric Clapton met and worked together on the Layla sessions. Dowd had worked with Eric in the Cream days, and when he mentioned to Duane {probably while working together on the Allman Brothers' Idlewild South} how happy he was to be able to work with Eric again, Duane asked Dowd if he could come by and watch. Dowd assured him it was cool, but Duane insisted he clear it with Clapton first. "I wouldn't want to do anything to upset him or make him think I'm trying to copy him," he told Dowd.

Eric and his band arrived and rehearsed some tunes. During a break Dowd mentioned this "Duane Allman fellow." Clapton said, "You mean Duane Allman who played with Clarence Carter and Aretha? Oh, man--if you ever know where he's playing, let me know; I wanna see him."

Santoro: The way Dowd tells it, "We {the Dominos pre-Duane} fumbled along for a couple days like that while we were getting sounds and breaking ice. Then the phone rings one afternoon, and it's Duane. He says, 'Hey, the band's doing a benefit concert at the Civic Center down there on Saturday {actually a Wednesday}; can I come by?' No problem.

"So I put the phone down. I told Eric who it was. He says, 'You mean that guy who plays on the back {end} of [Wilson Pickett's] "Hey Jude"? You know him?' I tell him he's doing the concert, so he says, 'We have to go.'

"So that Saturday {Wednesday} we went into the studio about two or three in the afternoon, fumbled along till about six or seven." {See last * item, "Producer Tom Dowd . . .," below.}


* "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" (Alternate Master #2)
Eric, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Billy Myles;
prev. rec. Freddy King 1960)
{(Alternate Master #1) was cut with the same lineup 08.31;
the originally released D&D version of this Freddy King song, with Duane added, was cut entirely on 09.02.}

Ouellette: There are also alternate takes of songs recorded before Allman joined the rehearsals that, when compared to the final master, show how integral and how underrated his guitar contributions were to Layla.

{Eric had been playing this song live for years; an astounding version (poorly recorded) was cut with John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers (Jack Bruce on bass) at London's Flamingo Club 1966.04 (released on Primal Solos, 1977), just before they cut the Blues Breakers album (John McVie, bass).

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Too big to post, but it's worth checking out:
http://www.freddiekingsite.com/fkec1.jpg


* Producer Tom Dowd brings Eric to the Allman Brothers Band's show in Miami. See the "What Other Players Thinked About Duane?" thread for details.

[Edited on 2004.10.24 by PeterNelson]

 

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  posted on 8/26/2004 at 09:15 AM
Peter,

What you're doing here is great - Thanks so much!

 

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  posted on 8/26/2004 at 12:14 PM
cool, thanks for doing this!

 

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  posted on 8/26/2004 at 12:45 PM
From Musician's Friend today:
"Also this week,Duane Allman begins sessions as a member of Derek And The Dominoes...Eric Clapton praises Allman as the catalyst in a double-album project that is completed in only 10 days...."

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 04:30 AM
1970.08.27 Thursday

Thanks, Bobo, Xerxes, and Jack!


* "Jam III"
Eric, BW, CR, JG
(comp. same four)
{If this is the correct date, it's unclear where Duane was for this jam (and three other tracks below), since he and Eric and everybody supposedly came back more or less together to jam the afternoon after the 08.26 ABB show (see following Tom Dowd quotes). Duane reportedly stayed playing until the next day (Dowd), but he might have left in the evening (various time frames given in different sources). It's otherwise possible that these cuts were made on days other than 08.27 and simply mislabeled. Also, it's not possible to reconstruct the exact sequence of the various recordings done in a given day, so with today's seven tracks, who knows which came when.}

Santoro: {Tom Dowd speaking} "So we piled into cars and Winnebagos and whatever the hell and went up to the studio at about three o'clock the next afternoon {08.27} with nobody having gone to bed {Duane and Eric (and others?) jamming at the Civic Center since the 08.26 ABB show let out (?)}. . . . We got back, turned the tapes on, and they went on for fifteen, eighteen hours like that. I went through two or three sets of engineers."


* "Jam IV"
Eric, Duane, Dickey, BW, Gregg, Berry, Butch
(comp. same seven)
{I wonder where Jaimoe was. Although this is a bouncy jam, near the start of his solo, Dickey "fore-plays" Duane's "Layla" introductory seven-note figure (speeded-up melodic line from Albert King's "As the Years Go Passing By") multiple times.}

Roberty: {Duane speaking} "He {Eric} invited us to go to the studio to play around, and that's where it started."

WPLO-FM: {Duane speaking} "He {Eric} says, 'Yeah, man, get out your guitar, man! We got to play!' So I was just going to play on one or two, and then as we kept on going, it kept developing."

Santoro: Lifted from the random bits and pieces of those jams that pepper the multitracks is the most complete picture of what the post-concert day was like: "Jam IV," which basically takes off from Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor," features the Allman Brothers Band {minus Jaimoe}, Clapton, and Whitlock. (The piano at the very end is Gregg Allman, who apparently arrived just in time.)

Guitar Player: {Gregg's account} Tommy Dowd was with him {Eric at the 08.26 ABB show}, and Duane asked Tommy if it would be all right if he came and watched part of the session. Clapton said, "Watch? Hell, come on and play!" At one point towards the end, both bands got in there and did a real long jam. We got it on tape--it's like a medley of blues songs Duane liked playing with Clapton.


* "Jam V"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. same five)


* "Tell the Truth" (Jam #1)
Eric, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Eric, BW)
{Separate "Tell the Truth" jam also recorded today; on 20th Anniversary Edition as "Tell the Truth" (Jam #2). Original Layla album version with Duane rec. 08.28, overdubbed 09.01 and 04.}

This track was released 1972.07 on the compilation album History of Eric Clapton (Atco). Its single vocal line, Eric singing, "Tell the truth" at 0:36 in, is not heard in the 20th Anniversary Edition redo!

D&D had already recorded this song back in England (that version also on History of Eric Clapton). Note that Eric played slide on it, three weeks before meeting Duane. Once in Miami, Derek and the Dominos kept working on the song, hoping to come up with a better version.

See notes both below and on the subsequent "Tell the Truth" dates.

Whitlock: Whitlock notes that the song “Tell the Truth” is typical of how he and Clapton worked together. “That song came out of some open tunings Duane had showed me {well before the Layla sessions; possibly sometime when Duane was working with Delaney and Bonnie}. I was messing with it all night long on acoustic guitar, and Eric’s bedroom was right above me. The next morning I said, ‘Eric, I wrote a new song!’ And he said, ‘I know. I’ve been hearing you play it all night long. I’ve already written my part.’ ”

Santoro: {Whitlock speaking} " 'Tell the Truth' I wrote one night after we'd been up for days on one of our marathons: We used to just play and play and play. We would play literally for three days without stopping.

"Anyway, I was up by myself sitting in Eric's living room, when this thing just hit me. I wasn't reflecting on Otis's 'Tell the Truth' [the '50s r&b smash by Lowman Pauling's Five Royales that Redding and Ray Charles both covered {Santoro's note}], even though that's my roots. I was thinking about 'The whole world's shaking--can't you feel it?' I was a young man, gaining experience and getting older; that's what I was thinking about. I wrote the whole thing that night except for the last verse. I made up the chords on an open tuning Duane had showed me. Then I went in to Eric the next day, and he thought it was great, so we sat down and wrote the last verse together."

Santoro: The initial version of "Tell the Truth" made its short-lived debut as a single, backed with "Roll It Over," which added Harrison to the band. . . . Produced by Phil Spector, it was drastically different from the attack the group put together a couple of months later.

Crossroads: "Tell the Truth" . . . recorded at Trident Studios, London, August 5, 1970. Released August 1970 as the A-side of Derek and the Dominos' first single but was subsequently recalled.

Roberty: July 1970. Derek and the Dominos record "Tell the Truth" and "Roll It Over," augmented by George Harrison, during sessions for his upcoming album at Abbey Road Studios. Phil Spector produces the track. {According to the Crossroads track notes, "Tell the Truth" was cut August 5 without George, but "Roll It Over" was "recorded {with George} at Friar Park Studio, Henley-on-Thames, summer 1970, during sessions for George Harrison's All Things Must Pass and mixed at Trident Studios, London, August 5, 1970." See 08.28.}

Roberty: August 1970 . . . Derek and the Dominos release their first single, "Tell the Truth" backed with "Roll It Over." It is withdrawn at the last minute because of the group's dissatisfaction with the recording.

{This 08.05 "Tell the Truth" is subsequently included in History of Eric Clapton, rel. 1972.07.}



Sixties: The group's first single {pre-Duane}, "Tell the Truth," withdrawn after only a week on sale. Very seldom seen. Atco 45-6780 (US).

Santoro: {Tom Dowd speaking at first} "You can tell, listening to all the jams you've got now, that the whole album just evolved. We were just getting ideas, shaping them afterwards." Like on the two "Tell the Truth" jams included here: The testing of different speeds, the boxiness of running the riff on the beat--all illuminate the small creative decisions the musicians made along the way as they searched for what they wanted to hear.

Ouellette: There are also alternate takes of songs recorded before Allman joined the rehearsals that, when compared to the final master, show how integral and how underrated his guitar contributions were to Layla.


* "Tell the Truth" (Jam #2)
Eric, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Eric, BW)
{Separate "Tell the Truth" jam also recorded today; on 20th Anniversary Edition as "Tell the Truth" (Jam #1). Original Layla album version with Duane rec. 08.28, overdubbed 09.01 and 04. See other notes at those track entries.}


* "(When Things Go Wrong) It Hurts Me, Too" / "Dust My Broom" (Jam)
Eric (straight Strat), Duane (electric slide)
(comp. Mel London / Elmore James; both originally recorded by Elmore James)
{Things didn't go totally right, as this track is only 1:56. After only a bit this jam breaks down, followed by some of Elmore's "Dust My Broom," which also breaks down soon.}

Freeman: They spent the entire next day and evening in the studio jamming on old blues songs. Dowd recorded some of the jam sessions, and he caught on tape an intimate moment when Eric and Duane were alone and quietly playing their electric guitars on a couple of Elmore James songs, "It Hurts Me, Too" and "Dust My Broom." Clapton plays a soft rhythm, while Duane playes bottleneck on the first one. Duane then shifts into the famous riffs that opens "Dust My Broom," and Eric quickly falls in behind him. Duane was nervous; the jam falls apart when Eric comes in on lead and Duane begins playing rhythm to the wrong song.

Roberty, Duane speaking: "We were playing together and singing a lot acoustically, and we got on very well together, like a sort of Laurel and Hardy singing the blues."

Glover, Dowd speaking: "Duane came back to the studio, and they sat there in camp chairs with acoustic {and electric} guitars, talking to each other. 'Hey, man, how'd you ever do this on that record?' and 'You know your solo that goes like this? . . .' It was a four-way conversation; the guitars were talking to each other, and the heads were talking to each other. . . . They went on like that till 4:30 or 5 in the morning {of 08.28}. Eric asked Duane if he would help on the album, and he said Sure."


* "Tender Love" (Incomplete Master)
Eric, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Eric, BW)


* In a strange historical coincidence, twenty years to the day, August 27, 1990, was the date Stevie Ray Vaughan died in that helicopter crash in southeastern Wisconsin after playing with Eric, Buddy Guy, Robert Cray, and his brother, Jimmie, and taking off out of the Alpine Valley venue to go to Chicago to jam some more.







Top and center: 1990 tour photos, Jimmie in the second.
Bottom: Onstage at Alpine Valley: Stevie Ray; possibly Phil Palmer, sometimes Eric's second guitarist; Ray Cooper, Eric's percussionist; Jimmie; Buddy; Eric


[Edited on 2006.1.4 by PeterNelson]

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 09:16 AM
Hey Peter
Very Cool
Thanx
Marion

 

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  posted on 8/28/2004 at 03:58 PM
1970.08.28 Friday

Thanks, Marion!

* According to this site's "Live Show Database," the Allman Brothers Band played an unknown venue in Pensacola Beach, Florida, every day this weekend, Friday 08.28 through Sunday 08.30. Duane has been said, by some sources, to have stayed behind in Miami to work on the Layla sessions.

Not necessarily, though: Only one song was recorded 08.28, and it could've been in the early a.m., since the sessions were generally nighttime affairs, or some other time that day that still allowed Duane time to make the Pensacola Beach gig. Furthermore, today's track, "Tell the Truth," was overdubbed both 09.01 and 04, so it's not certain that Duane was even in the studio 08.28 for the initial work on it.

Nothing was recorded 08.29. Only "Key to the Highway" was recorded 08.30, but see further discussion in the post for that date. So, did Duane really let the Brothers go up north without him?


* "Tell the Truth"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Eric and Bobby Whitlock)
{This song had already been recorded, without Duane, on 08.05 in England. The band wanted to keep working on it, and two instrumental jams on "Tell the Truth" were recorded without Duane 08.27 (see many notes there).
This track was overdubbed 09.01, 04.}

WPLO: {Duane speaking} "So I was just going to play on one or two, and then as we kept on going, it kept developing. Incidentally, sides 1, 2, 3, and 4--all the songs are right in the order they were cut from the first day through to 'Layla,' and then 'Thorn Tree' was last on the album." {I don't know why Duane would say this; it's only partially true only for side 4, and there are a couple other pairs of songs in "correct" order. Following is a list of Duane's Layla songs in the album order. To the right, for comparison, is a list of the order the songs were actually cut (not counting overdubs).}

Side, track...Song..............................Date.....Song
1.4................Nobody Knows You . . . .08.28....Tell the Truth
2.1................I Am Yours......................08.30....Key to the Highway
2.2................Anyday...........................08.31....Nobody Knows You . . .
2.3................Key to the Highway.....................Why Does Love . . .
3.1................Tell the Truth..................09.02....Have You Ever Loved . . .
3.2................Why Does Love . . . .......09.03....I Am Yours
3.3................Have You Ever Loved . . . ............Anyday
4.1................Little Wing...................................It's Too Late
4.2................It's Too Late...................09.09....Little Wing
4.3................Layla...........................................Layla
4.4................Thorn Tree . . . ...............09.10....Thorn Tree . . .

[Edited on 2004.10.15 by PeterNelson]

 

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  posted on 8/29/2004 at 08:53 PM
Great thread! Here's a little paranthesis-Keep your eyes out for a movie called "Tom Dowd & the Language of Music". It's a great documentary of this amazing man who was so central to so much great music. There is a very cool section at the end where he remixes the song Layla and at one point isolates just Duane and Eric's guitar. As he says of the slide parts "they were playing notes that were not on the guitar, just in their fingers".
 

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  posted on 8/30/2004 at 11:18 AM
Peter - keep it coming!

 

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  posted on 8/30/2004 at 04:00 PM
Okay, Bobo!

1970.08.29 Saturday


Day off at Criteria Studio B!


* According to this site's "Live Show Database," the Allman Brothers Band played an unknown venue in Pensacola Beach, Florida, every day this weekend, Friday 08.28 through Sunday 08.30. Duane has been said, by some sources, to have stayed behind in Miami to work on the Layla sessions.

Not necessarily, though: Only one song was recorded 08.28; see note in yesterday's post. Nothing was recorded 08.29. Only "Key to the Highway" was recorded 08.30, but see further discussion in the post for that date. So, did Duane really stay in Miami and just let the Brothers go play Pensacola Beach all weekend without him?

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That is a very cool segment in an excellent movie, Wondrin!

 

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  posted on 8/30/2004 at 09:52 PM
1970.08.30 Sunday


* According to this site's "Live Show Database," the Allman Brothers Band played an unknown venue in Pensacola Beach, Florida, every day this weekend, Friday 08.28 through Sunday 08.30. Duane has been said, by some sources, to have stayed behind in Miami to work on the Layla sessions.

Not necessarily, though: Only one song was recorded 08.28; see the note in the post for that date. Nothing was recorded 08.29.

Only "Key to the Highway" was supposedly recorded 08.30, but there are reasons to doubt this date. For one thing, on most days there was work on three or more different tracks. "Key to the Highway" was just a spontaneous jam that Tom Dowd was lucky to catch on tape after it started; see Tom's account from Santoro below. If this 08.30 date is correct, that means the only thing the band (and producer and engineers) "accomplished" all day was this one jam.

At least as plausible is the idea that Duane was up in Pensacola Beach with the Brothers, as he had been all weekend, and Studio B was quiet Sunday, as it had been Saturday. The "Key to the Highway" jam could've been captured almost any other day that Duane was present (first guess: 08.31), then mislabeled, as some of the other session tracks certainly were.


* "Key to the Highway"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Charles Segar & Willie [Big Bill] Broonzy;
prev. rec. by Broonzy; Little Walter Jacobs 1958)

Santoro: The sessions' rock-and-roll spontaneity is encapsulated in the story of how "Key to the Highway" made it onto Layla. As Dowd recalls, "Sam the Sam [Samudio] was in the studio, and the chaps heard him doing a number in the adjacent room. They thought it was a great tune. Eric or Duane picked up on it; Radle jumped in; Whitlock, who knew all those tunes, jumped on it; and before you knew it, everybody was trailing along, and I turned around and yelled, 'Hit the goddam machine!' " It was one of the few times Dowd was caught off guard: On the original multitrack tapes, the tune opens midsolo, which is why it fades in on the album.

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  posted on 8/30/2004 at 10:20 PM
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As he says of the slide parts "they were playing notes that were not on the guitar, just in their fingers".
Wondrin', thanks--that's a great line!

You would definitely like seeing the following section in this forum:
Crew and Management > Magic Men > Tom Dowd

There are a couple threads just about the movie, including one started by, and with frequent updates from, Tom's daughter!

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1970.08.31 Monday


* The Allman Brothers Band starts a four-day break, according to this site's "Live Show Database." They had played Friday through Sunday at Pensacola Beach, with or without Duane (see posts for those dates). They didn't play again until Friday 09.04 at Milwaukee, and in the meantime, Duane put in a great stretch of playing to the sessions.


* "Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out"
Eric, Duane, BW, Albhy Galuten (piano), CR, JG
(comp. Jimmie Cox {but see note below in "Other"};
orig. rec. Bessie Smith)

Freeman: They cut "Nobody Loves You When You're Down and Out," the old Bessie Smith classic. Duane came up with the arrangement--the same one he had used two years earlier with the 31st of February {including Gregg and Butch; note that Freeman gives incorrect title wording}.

{Note found on the net: "This blues was written by Ida Cox and B. Feldman. The recording by Bessie Smith dates from 1929." I don't know whether Jimmie Cox was related to Ida and finagled credit somehow.
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/2541/blbsmith.htm

Addition from 2004.10.02
Thames: B.T. {writer Bill Thames} I have a live tape that I recorded in the spring of 1968 of the Hourglass [pre- Allman Brothers with Gregg and Duane Allman] playing back home in Daytona Beach. One of the more interesting things about that tape is that the Hourglass is playing a version of “Nobody Knows You When You’re Down and Out.” The Hourglass version is exactly the same arrangement—and Duane is playing the exact same guitar parts--as the same song that the Dominos recorded a year and a half later for Layla {actually, two-and-a-half years later; also, half-year later for the 31st of February recording}. Apparently, Duane brought that arrangement to the session as one song that was nearly in the can.

B.W. {Bobby Whitlock} Oh, get outta here! Oh, wow! Well, he was already well versed on the song when we did it, then. I’ll bet Gregg would love to have some of that. Wow, Hourglass! That would be, what, thirty-eight years ago? Man, I’d love to hear some of that.


* "Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton & Whitlock)
{Overdubs were added 09.01, 09}

Santoro: Whitlock and Clapton were tightening up as a songwriting team. Whitlock recalls, " 'Anyday' we just sat down and wrote. 'Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?'--same thing. We started doing that intro on the bottom end of the guitar neck, then Eric whipped up to the top end, and it started sounding right. Songs just evolved, like they did with Isaac Hayes and David Porter {team at Stax}. We weren't writing to have great songs; we wrote just to have something to play."

Freeman: It is the first time that Duane has played straight guitar on the session {not counting the jams}, and he takes the lead break.



Roberty: April 1973. Derek and the Dominos release a live single from their double album: "Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?" backed with "Presence of the Lord." {The album In Concert had been released the month before.}

Sixties: "Why Does Love..." / "Presence of the Lord." RSO 2090 104 (D).


* "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" (Alternate Master #1)
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Billy Myles;
prev. rec. Freddy King 1960)
{Another alternate master of this song had been cut 08.26 (see notes there), before the fellas went out to meet Duane at the Allman Brothers show. The version that ended up on the album, with Duane, was completely cut 09.02.}

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Coolest thread on the whole site.......

 

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1970.09.01 Tuesday

Thanks again, Bobo! I don't know about coolest, but I bet it's the most heavily edited thread! Just now I've added notes, mostly about whether the Bros really left Duane behind in Miami while they played three days in Pensacola Beach, to 08.28 through 08.31.


* The Allman Brothers Band is enjoying Monday through Thursday off, so Duane is able to really concentrate on the sessions with Derek and the Dominos.

As a matter of fact, though, it's usually not possible to tell from the track recording info exactly which days Duane played on which songs. We know he played on a song--for example, "Tell the Truth" below--at some point, but was he present when the basic tracks were first laid down (08.28), or only during the first overdubbing (today), or maybe on just the first and second days of overdubbing (today and 09.04)? Maybe Duane contributed to "Tell the Truth" on all three days of work that led to the final track on the album.


* "Keep On Growing"
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{Overdubbed separately later this day and 09.02, 05, and 09. Duane takes no part in this song at any point.}

Santoro: {20th Anniversary Edition} engineer Steve Rinkoff explains a bit of what went into his efforts: "We were very aware of the fact that this album is history, and so we didn't change anything for the sake of change. We tried to match the feel and the balances between the instruments, and when there were alternate guitars or percussion, we went back and made sure that we used the same tracks they did. Except," he grins, "for the scream on 'Keep On Growing,' which we found and thought was too good to leave out."

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Left: Mamesiba: "Bell Bottom Blues" / "Keep On Growing" - Derek and the Dominos (ATCO 45-6803), 1970?
Right: Sixties: {Perhaps same as image at right, found elsewhere} "Bell Bottom Blues" / "Keep On Growing." Polydor 2001 148 (D), 1971


* "Keep On Growing" (Overdubbed)
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recording made separately earlier this day. More overdubs 09.02, 05, and 09. Duane takes no part in this song at any point.}

Added on 2004.12.13
For a discussion of the Layla album's songs Duane did not play on, especially “Keep On Growing," see this thread from early 2003:
“Duane not credited on side one of Layla”
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread&tid=5865


* "Tell the Truth" (Overdubbed)
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recording made 08.28 (counting neither the entirely different single cut 08.05 nor the two instrumental jams on "Tell the Truth" 08.27; see notes at 08.27). Further overdubs made 09.04.}


* "Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?" (Overdubbed)
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recording made 08.31. Further overdubs made 09.09.}

[Edited on 2005.7.3 by PeterNelson]

 

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1970.09.02 Wednesday


* The Allman Brothers Band is enjoying Monday through Thursday off, so Duane is able to really concentrate on the sessions with Derek and the Dominos. Duane's definitely in the studio sometime today, because of "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" (see below). He is not at all on the other four tracks worked on today.


* "I Looked Away"
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recorded today. Also overdubbed separately today and 09.04. Duane takes no part in this song at any point.}



Records: Derek and the Dominos (Japan 1971, Polydor DP 1782). "Layla" / "I Looked Away" (M-/EX). $75 (SOLD). Very scarce.


* "I Looked Away"
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recorded separately today. More overdubs 09.04. Duane takes no part in this song at any point.}


* "Bell Bottom Blues"
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recording today. Also overdubbed 09.04 and 09. Duane takes no part in this song at any point.}





Top: Mamesiba: "Bell Bottom Blues" / "Keep On Growing" - Derek and the Dominos (ATCO 45-6803), 1970?
Bottom: Records: Derek and the Dominos (Italy 1971, Polydor 2001 182). "Layla" / "Bell Bottom Blues" (M-/M-). $75 (SOLD). Scarce, great pics of Duane Allman.
{Single sleeve pic copied from inside of Layla double LP. Clockwise, spiraling inward, from upper left:
Producer Tom Dowd, Jim Gordon, Jim's drum case (a bit reminiscent of the later At Fillmore East cover), Eric, part of Duane, Bobby Whitlock, group portrait (Carl Radle above Eric), engineer _____?, another part of Duane, Eric, Duane.}


* "Keep On Growing" (Overdubbed)
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recording made 09.01. First overdubs 09.01; further overdubs 09.05 and 09. Duane takes no part in this song at any point.}


Added on 2004.12.13
For a discussion of the Layla album's songs Duane did not play on, especially “Keep On Growing," see this thread from early 2003:
“Duane not credited on side one of Layla”
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread&tid=5865


* "Have You Ever Loved a Woman"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Billy Myles;
prev. rec. Freddy King 1960)
{This version was completely cut today. Alternate masters of this song had been cut 08.26, before the fellas went out to meet Duane at the Allman Brothers show (see song note and pics at that day's post), and 08.31, also without Duane. This 09.02 version, with Duane, is the one that ended up on the original Layla album.}


* "Jam I"
Eric, BW, CR, JG
(comp. same four)
{"Jams II" through "V" were all cut 08.26 and 27. The "Jam" title numbering only reflects the order the tracks appear on the 20th Anniversary Edition album.}

[Edited on 2004.12.13 by PeterNelson]

 

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1970.09.03 Thursday


* The Allman Brothers Band is still on its short break. Duane must've been at the Layla sessions today; see "Anyday" note below.


* "I Am Yours"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton and Nizami)
{Overdubbed 09.04 and 09}

Hutchinson: Musician: Nizami, the Persian poet who wrote The Story of Layla and Majnoun, is also credited with the lyrics of "I Am Yours"; did he write them, or inspire them?
Clapton: It was a poem he wrote.
Musician: How did you discover Persian poetry?
Clapton: In a book that was given to me by a Sufi, an Englishman who had become a Sufi. The story in the book struck me as being just like what I was going through.

{Persian names also seen anglicized as Leila, Leili O Majnoun, Leyla, Majnun, Nezami, Nizami Ganjawi ("born in Ganje").}



"Majnun stroking a dog because it has come from near his beloved Leila" {early Turkish miniature}



Records: Derek and the Dominos (Germany 1972, Polydor 2001 172). "Layla" / "I Am Yours" (M-/EX+, SPS, TIC, STABC). $35.


* "Anyday"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{Overdubbed 09.04}

Santoro: Whitlock and Clapton were tightening up as a songwriting team. Whitlock recalls, " 'Anyday' we just sat down and wrote. 'Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?'--same thing. . . . Songs just evolved, like they did with Isaac Hayes and David Porter {team at Stax}. We weren't trying to have great songs; we wrote just to have something to play."

Santoro: As Dowd remembers it, the Allmans had a couple more shows they had to do, but Duane promised to come back as soon as they were done. "That," he says, "was when the band got serious about what they were doing. All of a sudden the catalyst was there; it was just a matter of putting things into shape."

Whitlock agrees: "He brought the best out of us, even with the songwriting, 'cause the songwriting came out of the jamming. Like 'Anyday': Eric and I had already written it, but then Duane came up with that slide part. He said, 'Hey, check this out: Let's make it like a Roman chariot race!' He was doing that kind of stuff all the time. You can tell, listening to all the jams you've got now, that the whole album just evolved. We were just getting ideas, shaping them afterwards."


* "It's Too Late"
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Chuck Willis;
rec. 1956)
{Overdubbed 09.09 and allegedly (not possibly) 10.01. An alternate master of this song was cut 09.09.}

Santoro: Despite the band's months of work, their first sessions were tentative. Dowd remembers, "Whitlock had two or three songs, Eric had one or two blues he wanted to do, and we were looking for old records so we could be authentic about this or that lick. Carl Radle was into Chuck Willis, for instance, and so we dug out a bunch of Chuck Willis records, which is how 'It's Too Late' made it onto Layla."

[Edited on 2004.10.15 by PeterNelson]

 

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If I remember my Japanese right, that title says "Itoshi No Reira." I'm not sure what the beginning part means, but the last word is a transliteration of Layla.

 

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transliteration

its words like this that make me wish i had finished college.....

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1970.09.04 Friday


Thanks for your translation, Marley. Now I wonder what the "extra" characters are saying. I can't read Japanese at all, but that is visually very attractive streamlined Japanese typography on that 45 sleeve.
Thanks for the encouragement, Linnie!


* The Allman Brothers Band is off on a short (two-gig) Midwest jaunt. Tonight they're playing the Scene at Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Back in Miami, Derek and the Dominos are working on five songs, including three of "Duane's," but it's all overdubbing, so no reason to think Duane has to be there.

Libis ABB: {List adapted by me}
LIVE SHOW: September 4, 1970
The Scene, Milwaukee, WI

“Statesboro Blues”
“Trouble No More”
“Don't Keep Me Wonderin' "
“Dreams”
“You Don't Love Me”
“In Memory of Elizabeth Reed”
“Hoochie Coochie Man”
“Stormy Monday”
“Leave My Blues at Home”
“Whipping Post”


* "I Looked Away" (Overdubbed)
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{This is the final work on this song, which will be the first track on the Layla album. First recording was done 09.02. Also overdubbed separately 09.02. Duane takes no part in this song at any point; see note below.}


* "Bell Bottom Blues" (Overdubbed)
Eric, BW, CR, JG--no Duane
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{First recording made 09.02. More overdubbing to come 09.09. Duane takes no part in this song at any point; see following note.}


Added 2004.12.13
For a discussion of the Layla album's songs Duane did not play on, see this thread from early 2003:
“Duane not credited on side one of Layla”
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread&tid=5865


* "I Am Yours" (Overdubbed)
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton and Nizami)
{First recording yesterday, 09.03. Also overdubbed 09.09, a day Duane was back at Criteria.}


* "Anyday" (Overdubbed)
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{This represents the final work on this song, which appears as the middle of side 2's three songs, or sixth overall, on Layla. It was started on 09.03, when all of Duane's playing had to have been recorded.}


* "Tell the Truth" (Overdubbed)
Eric, Duane, BW, CR, JG
(comp. Clapton and Whitlock)
{This is the final work on this song, which leads off side 3, or eighth track overall. First recording was made 08.28 (counting neither the entirely different single cut 08.05 nor the two instrumental jams on "Tell the Truth" 08.27; see extensive notes at 08.27). Earlier overdubs were made 09.01.}

This is one of the few cuts featuring both Duane and Eric on slide guitar.

Mandel: {Ellen Mandel} I understand that Eric was influenced by your slide playing. How did you develop your approach to bottleneck?

{Duane} It's all in the wrists. Eric is coming along on his slide. He's doing okay. He ain't no Duane Allman of the slide guitar, but he's doing all right!

I heard Ry Cooder playing it about three years ago {1968, when Duane was leading the Hour Glass in California}, and I said, "Man, that's for me!" I got me a bottleneck and went around the house for about three weeks saying, "Hey, man. We've got to learn the songs--the blues to play on the stage. I love this. This is a gas!"

So, we started doing it. For a while everybody would look at me, thinking, "Oh, no! He's getting ready to do it again!" And everybody would just lower their heads, as if to say, "Get it over with--quick."

Then I got a little bit better at it, and now everybody's blowing it all out of proportion. It's just fine for me as a relief from the other kind of playing. It's just playing.

{EM} How do you play slide guitar?

{Duane} You just slide a bottle up and down 'til what you want out of it comes out. That's what I did.

You just tune it up up to a chord. I can't play it in standard tuning. {Actually, in live performances Duane would play both regular and slide in standard tuning on the same guitar on a single song, such as "Dreams" and "Mountain Jam." For an all-slide song, he'd play in open tuning, like he's talking about here.} Mike Bloomfield can play the fire out of one that way {slide in standard tuning}, but I never could do that. You tune it to a chord, and then you just slide away at it 'til you've got it down.

Guitar Player: In his Guitar Player interview in 1976, Eric Clapton credited Duane with getting him interested in electric slide: “There were very few people playing electric slide that were doing anything new; it was just the Elmore James licks, and everyone know those. No one was opening it up until Duane showed up and played in a completely different way. That sort of made me think about taking it up.”
{Eric had recorded slide earlier that year, though, notably at these times:
* spring dates that went into The Howlin’ Wolf London Sessions, released on Chess in 1971.08
* 08.05 original version of "Tell the Truth," cut in England three weeks before Eric and Duane met, rel. late in August}

Roberty: Derek and the Dominos release their first single, “Tell the Truth” backed with “Roll It Over.” It is withdrawn at the last minute because of the group’s dissatisfaction with the recording. {These were the tracks cut in England before D&D came to Miami; see notes 08.27.}

{Continuing in Roberty} Group spokesman: The group rerecorded “Tell the Truth” during their studio time in Miami for inclusion on their new double album. When they compared the two, they were so unhappy about the original that they asked Polydor if they could withdraw it. We suggested “After Midnight” as a single {released 1970.10.31?} because of pressure from DJs and fans.

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  posted on 9/4/2004 at 12:39 PM
Peter you have been doing a wonderful job with these posts. Thank you for all this great info.

 

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Peter, thanks sooo much for taking the time to write all this, fascinating work, probably the best I've read on the sessions!!!
 
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