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  posted on 2/26/2012 at 10:42 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/26/1068569/-Romney-Crashes-and-Burns- Pandering-at-NASCARS-Daytona-500?via=siderecent

 

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  posted on 2/26/2012 at 11:08 PM
I'd pay money to hear Mitt say "boogity, boogity, boogity."
 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 12:43 AM
Flip Romney is more phony than a 3 dollar bill!!!

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 11:28 AM
I would hate to work on his campaign staff. Just when things ride smooth again he seems to verbalize his thoughts (well-intentioned or not) in the clumsiest of ways.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 11:38 AM
It is completely predictable that someone born into wealth like him would have a very difficult time empathizing or relating to middle class and poor people. Born with a silver spoon in his mouth . he has no concept. Too bad he's not more like his old man, his old man got it.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 02:01 PM
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I'd pay money to hear Mitt say "boogity, boogity, boogity."


LOL. It would probably be as good as his version of "America The Beautiful."

Those of us here in Massachusetts, who had to endure four years of the Mittster as governor, see his behavior on the campaign trail and say, "Well, 'ol numbnuts is at it again."

 

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I must confess I've done very little research on the Mittsters record as a Mass. governor. Other than his health care reform, I've heard very little about his time at the helm of your state, Woods. What is your opinion on his performance for his four years as your governor? Just curious....
 

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I must confess I've done very little research on the Mittsters record as a Mass. governor. Other than his health care reform, I've heard very little about his time at the helm of your state, Woods. What is your opinion on his performance for his four years as your governor? Just curious....


I think this answers that question.

"Well, 'ol numbnuts is at it again."

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 02:19 PM
"My wife drives a couple of Cadillacs."

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 02:33 PM
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I must confess I've done very little research on the Mittsters record as a Mass. governor. Other than his health care reform, I've heard very little about his time at the helm of your state, Woods. What is your opinion on his performance for his four years as your governor? Just curious....


Well, first off, the fact that he only served one term as governor and didn't run for a second one proved that he was just using Massachusetts as a stepping stone for greater things (running for president in 2008 and now in 2012). Indeed, Romney traveled out-of- state for all or parts of more than 200 days during his final year in office.

On Romney's Mass. legacy, State Senator Gale D. Candaras says, "There is no legacy. He was governor here, but we never had his full attention." State Senator Stanley Rosenberg
said Romney had a narrow agenda and was not an activist governor like two Democrats, Michael Dukakis and current governor Deval Patrick.

Although he campaigned that he wouldn't raise taxes to solve the state's budget problems, as governor he raised various fees (on state services) to generate state revenues, which is basically the same thing as raising taxes. He also raised revenue by spending cuts on popular social programs.

His record on Massachusetts' economy was dismal. During Romney's years as governor, jobs in Massachusetts rose by only a net 46,000, from 3.224 million in January 2003 to 3.270 million in 2007.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 03:31 PM
Yes, why couldn't have Romney been more like flippin' DUKAKIS???!!?? Hilarious!

When Romney tries to be 'one of the guys,' it is cringe worthy.His description of the state of Michigan, with the size of the trees and the lakes, etc, awkward to say the least. He simply needs to be who he is. I was definitely impressed when he turned around the Olympics with his leadership skills, and he is a smart guy. His return on investment with Bain was through the roof. He needs to not worry about the liberal moronisphere where success is looked down upon and just be himself and bring his knowledge and abilities to the fore.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 03:57 PM
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I was definitely impressed when he turned around the Olympics with his leadership skills, and he is a smart guy. His return on investment with Bain was through the roof.


One of your conservative buddies, Rick Perry of Texas, said this about Romney and Bain Capital:

"I will suggest that they are vultures. They're vultures that are sitting out there on the tree limb, waiting for a company to get sick. And then they swoop in, they eat the carcass, they leave with that and they eat the skeleton."

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/perry-says-romney-bain-capital-ar e-vultures



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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 04:13 PM
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I must confess I've done very little research on the Mittsters record as a Mass. governor. Other than his health care reform, I've heard very little about his time at the helm of your state, Woods. What is your opinion on his performance for his four years as your governor? Just curious....


Well, first off, the fact that he only served one term as governor and didn't run for a second one proved that he was just using Massachusetts as a stepping stone for greater things (running for president in 2008 and now in 2012). Indeed, Romney traveled out-of- state for all or parts of more than 200 days during his final year in office.

On Romney's Mass. legacy, State Senator Gale D. Candaras says, "There is no legacy. He was governor here, but we never had his full attention." State Senator Stanley Rosenberg
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Although he campaigned that he wouldn't raise taxes to solve the state's budget problems, as governor he raised various fees (on state services) to generate state revenues, which is basically the same thing as raising taxes. He also raised revenue by spending cuts on popular social programs.

His record on Massachusetts' economy was dismal. During Romney's years as governor, jobs in Massachusetts rose by only a net 46,000, from 3.224 million in January 2003 to 3.270 million in 2007.


Thanks for the "review," Woods.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 04:24 PM
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I know it doesn't play well politically, but I'm actually impressed that Romney doesn't try to act like something he isn't. He's succesful, rich and unapologetic. I's rather see that than someone who is rich and denies it. So his wife drives Cadillacs and he knows a couple owners of nascar teams. At least he's not pretending it isn't so.

 

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I know it doesn't play well politically, but I'm actually impressed that Romney doesn't try to act like something he isn't. He's succesful, rich and unapologetic. I's rather see that than someone who is rich and denies it. So his wife drives Cadillacs and he knows a couple owners of nascar teams. At least he's not pretending it isn't so.


You do realize he's flipped his stance on virtually every major issue except how rich he is, right?

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 05:05 PM
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You do realize he's flipped his stance on virtually every major issue except how rich he is, right?


Even though I'd never vote for him (romney)

at least he flips before getting elected
and I don't see that being much different than a candidate who says one thing at election and doesn't follow through after getting in office.

 

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I know it doesn't play well politically, but I'm actually impressed that Romney doesn't try to act like something he isn't. He's succesful, rich and unapologetic. I's rather see that than someone who is rich and denies it. So his wife drives Cadillacs and he knows a couple owners of nascar teams. At least he's not pretending it isn't so.


You do realize he's flipped his stance on virtually every major issue except how rich he is, right?

Yes he has. I don't think he's a great candidate, and I don't support him. I was just commenting on a particular trait that I admire if that's OK.

 

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I know it doesn't play well politically, but I'm actually impressed that Romney doesn't try to act like something he isn't. He's succesful, rich and unapologetic. I's rather see that than someone who is rich and denies it. So his wife drives Cadillacs and he knows a couple owners of nascar teams. At least he's not pretending it isn't so.


You do realize he's flipped his stance on virtually every major issue except how rich he is, right?

Yes he has. I don't think he's a great candidate, and I don't support him. I was just commenting on a particular trait that I admire if that's OK.


Why wouldn't it be OK?

 

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I know it doesn't play well politically, but I'm actually impressed that Romney doesn't try to act like something he isn't. He's succesful, rich and unapologetic. I's rather see that than someone who is rich and denies it. So his wife drives Cadillacs and he knows a couple owners of nascar teams. At least he's not pretending it isn't so.


You do realize he's flipped his stance on virtually every major issue except how rich he is, right?

Yes he has. I don't think he's a great candidate, and I don't support him. I was just commenting on a particular trait that I admire if that's OK.


Why wouldn't it be OK?

Well, you seemed to have some kind of issue with my statement or you wouldn't have replied the way you did. Maybe I read it wrong, but if so I don't get your point.

I find it amusing that that so many people find it impossible to admit even one redeeming quality in a candidate they don't support. To me they all, (well, almost all) seem like good people. I'd have a beer with Romney, Santorum, Paul, or Obama and probably have a great time. I like them all. But none of them are what I want in a President and I don't intend to vote for any of them. That doesn't make them bad people, just bad candidates in my opinion. I have to admit, I'm not sure I'd enjoy having a beer with Gingrich, but maybe it would be interesting.

I got in a discussion here last night with someone who hates Santorum so much she couldn't even give him credit for being up front and honest with his positions. I mean he's out there telling you how he feels about contraception, religion in politics, even going to college. His ideas are a little strange to me, but I think you have to give him credit for being open and honest about them. But some critics cannot even admit that he is that.

So when I pointed out that Romney is at least unapologetic for being who he is (i.e. rich) and you come back with an unrelated comment about him flip-flopping on issues (I agree, he has) it struck me as more of the same thing...being unable to admit any redeeming qualities in a candidate you don't support.

Like I said, maybe I misunderstood. I still think you woke up grouchy today.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 06:10 PM
One thing Romney is right about is the auto bailout. It should have went to bankruptcy court and dealt with that way. As it happened, Chrysler now belongs to Fiat. And, the American people lost $1.5 BILLION dollars bailing the union out. So, when are the union workers going to set up a payment plan to pay back the American people the $1.5 BILLION???

 

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  posted on 2/27/2012 at 06:11 PM
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Well, you seemed to have some kind of issue with my statement or you wouldn't have replied the way you did. Maybe I read it wrong, but if so I don't get your point.


It just struck me funny that "being himself" would be admirable, since he's gone back and forth so many times.

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I find it amusing that that so many people find it impossible to admit even one redeeming quality in a candidate they don't support. To me they all, (well, almost all) seem like good people. I'd have a beer with Romney, Santorum, Paul, or Obama and probably have a great time. I like them all. But none of them are what I want in a President and I don't intend to vote for any of them. That doesn't make them bad people, just bad candidates in my opinion. I have to admit, I'm not sure I'd enjoy having a beer with Gingrich, but maybe it would be interesting.


I understand, but personally that sort of thing has never meant anything to me. Being a "good" or "bad" person who you'd like to hang out with has nothing to do with governing, but that's looking at it from a purely political perspective.

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His ideas are a little strange to me, but I think you have to give him credit for being open and honest about them.


I agree with you there, actually.

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So when I pointed out that Romney is at least unapologetic for being who he is (i.e. rich) and you come back with an unrelated comment about him flip-flopping on issues (I agree, he has) it struck me as more of the same thing...being unable to admit any redeeming qualities in a candidate you don't support.


Hmmm. I'm not sure in the end what difference that makes?

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Like I said, maybe I misunderstood. I still think you woke up grouchy today.


Did not!

 

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Being a "good" or "bad" person who you'd like to hang out with has nothing to do with governing,
Word! I'd have a beer with Sang (and have), but I wouldn't trust him to run my lawnmower, let alone a country.

 

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I find it amusing that that so many people find it impossible to admit even one redeeming quality in a candidate they don't support. To me they all, (well, almost all) seem like good people. I'd have a beer with Romney, Santorum, Paul, or Obama and probably have a great time. I like them all. But none of them are what I want in a President and I don't intend to vote for any of them. That doesn't make them bad people, just bad candidates in my opinion. I have to admit, I'm not sure I'd enjoy having a beer with Gingrich, but maybe it would be interesting.


I understand, but personally that sort of thing has never meant anything to me. Being a "good" or "bad" person who you'd like to hang out with has nothing to do with governing, but that's looking at it from a purely political perspective.

Exactly. If you read the passage you quoted from me you'll see that's exactly what I said: the candidates are good people but not what I want as President. But my real point was not about the candidates at all. It was about people who find it impossible to see any good in people they don't support. I find it a fascinating characteristic in human nature, as if acknowledging a positive attribute of an opposing candidate may cause him to get elected and therefore ruin your life.

 

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  posted on 2/29/2012 at 07:37 AM
It looks like 'ol numbnuts/flipflopper won Arizona and Michigan.

 

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  posted on 2/29/2012 at 08:25 AM
Pretty sad when you barely top 40% in your "home" state. How many home states does he have anyway?

 

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